Prof Bhartendu Seth, president, Faculty Forum, IIT-Bombay points out, “We are demanding a pay structure to attract talented young teachers to IITs, which is not likely with the kind of pay and perks notified by the HRD ministry”. A case in point, Seth elaborated, was that the ministry’s new cadre of “contract-basis lecturer” in Pay Band (PB) 3 — Rs 15,600-39,100 — with an Academic Grade Pay (AGP) of Rs 6,000 will hardly attract youngsters. “At assistant professor level, the ministry has notified that one must come with three years experience and a PhD. This means IITs will not be able to take fresh graduates or doctorates as permanent faculty members. That apart, our assistant professors cannot move to Pay Band 4 like their counterparts in the UGC scale,” Seth said.
Prof K Rajagopal from IIT-Delhi explains further. “Our main contention is that prior to the Sixth Pay Commission the IITs were among the few centres of excellence in the country like ISRO, DRDO, CSIR. But unlike us, our counterparts in these scientific organisations get a dual-level Performance Related Incentive Scheme (PRIS) which comprises 20 per cent of their basic pay as additional allowance and a Flexible Complementing Scheme which ensures time bound promotions irrespective of vacancies in the next grade. So IITs are not only brought down one level from the ‘centre of excellence’ grouping but also denied scholastic equivalence,” says Rajagopal. “That apart, there are great disparities at entry-level between the UGC system and IITs. So while a BTech-level person starts at Pay Band 3 in a university/college as assistant professor, at IITs it is no less than a PhD who joins PB 3 as lecturer on a contract basis and has to work for three years to become associate professor,” he added.
The All-India IIT Faculty Federation submitted a memorandum to the HRD Ministry demanding:
•The entry-level ‘lecturer’ post should be abolished for IITs
•The ministry should allow recruitment of PhDs at assistant professor-level without three years of experience mandated by the notification
• An increase in AGP for associate professors and professors; a hike in Professional Development Allowance (PDA) from Rs 3 lakh to Rs 5 lakh for three years; a ‘Scholastic/Special Allowance’ of Rs 15,000 per month to all faculty as given at ISRO/DRDO.
The All India IIT Faculty Federation has announced, meanwhile, that if the HRD ministry fails to address their concerns by September 5, a hunger strike will be launched.
HRD Minister Kapil Sibal will be meeting IIT directors on September 2 and this matter is likely to be on the agenda. The ministry, however, feels that the IIT faculty has little reason to complain as the notification has by and large adhered to the Committee recommendations. The new cadre of contract-basis lecturers, says the ministry, was also created to get fresh doctorates to join as faculty members.
Source : Indian Express.
16 comments :
Many of us could not undertstand, what are the points/clauses of MHRD report, against which the IIT faculties are fighting. A close scrutiny of Mehta committe report and the MHRD report suggests that MHRD has by and large accepted all its suggestions. Then why the IIT/IIM faculties now started opposing the MHRD report?
The parity of pay scale will be maintained again in 6th pay comission. Do not think Asst. Prof. with M.Sc. qualification will be comparable to Asst. Prof. at IIT. My friends those qualified CSIR in 1996, has now reader in Univ. I could have done the same thing and my financial status could have better now. But we struggled for our research in top technical institute in India. People like sspplm may have Ph.D. from the same univ. during the job. We know the standard of your thesis and quality of research.
Who cares even if still u r Asst. Prof. with M.Sc. qualification !!!
What is the need of explaining the parity to the F00L sspplm ?? Why this foolis raoming here ?? Dare to enter to IIM/IIT campus and ask your queries.
Otherwise go to hell.
sspplm with his fool gangs unable to understand the points/clauses of MHRD report because of their poor knowledge.
Please read 100 times MHRD report, 100 times UGS report and 1000 times Prof, Goverdhan Mehta report !!!
Then, try to analyze it for your thesis work. Then, I will scrutinize your work for further understanding.
By the way,you should give respect to your Acharyas(Gurus) in IIT/IIM those have very bad time due to HRD ministry.
Do your homework and we will discuss on your progress in next meeting !!!
panky and Siva,
Perfect and nicely written reply to sspplm kind of people. If one does not understand (rather unable to understand), he should keep his mouth shut.
Sspplm, panky and shiva please stop mudslinging.
Your arguments are partially correct. Not all IIT faculties are extraordinary. On the other hand there are many world class research workers in UGC universities. Higher pay scales for IIT will cause heartburn to them. Of course, overall iits have higher standards. At the same time they get very good students and infrastructure also. IISC faculties negligible teaching load.
It is also not correct that if somebody has done Ph.D. while working, it is of low level. I have seen many fresh M.Sc. (with NET qualification) or B.E. with excellent results have joined BARC, DRDO or ISRO or university system. They have done world class research there and acquired Ph.D. On the other hand left out backbenchers, who did not qualify any all India exam. or get job, slugged in the research. Somehow they obtained Ph.D., may be under some big fellow in some university or even IIT and had some post-DOC experience abroad (which is not very hard to get). A few international publications came automatically. Many of them are IIT/IISER faculties.
Also IITs, IISERS, IISC have high prejudice for foreign Ph.Ds or post-docs. Even NISER website openly tells their preference for post-DOC abroad (May be Bangladesh, Nepal?) which itself shows IITs and IISc in poor light.
What is disappointing in the MHRD notification is the absence for any incentive for good, meaningful research and teaching. These institutions should be given freedom so that they can offer suitable and attractive recruitment and promotional scheme for their faculties. Also there should be suitable incentives for doing productive research e,g. monetary benefits/faster promotions/research grant etc. can be given based on no. of papers in good journals (as first author), no. of Ph.D.s produced, industrial , environmental or social problems solved, foreign research collaboration or bringing of external funds etc. (for both MHRD & UGC institutions).
SD
fantastic discussion .. keep going on!
@sukanta
you are very much right, the motto should be "better research work and better performance = better pay".
i guess all the smart ppl who decide the rules/pay never thought about it. they have more complicated things to work out.
but in any case i think the present offerings in either system (iit/ugc) are not good enough to attract fresh phd's or postdoc's. i know of quite a few motivated and bright workers who returned to india from abroad and got into industry (r&d), simply because they could not refuse almost 3-4 fold salaries compared to the academic jobs (in iits/iisc).
instead of creating disparity between iit/ugc system, the benchmark for performance should be set same everywhere, provided they have the oppurtunities/infrastructure. i guess that is a tough ask in place like India.
STOP ANNIHILATION OF INDIAN SCHOOL OF MINES UNIVERSITY
The Indian School of Mines University (ISMU, Dhanbad) Teachers Association on its emergency meeting held on 28-08-2009 unanimously resolved that all the faculty members will go on mass leave and boycott all the academic activities on 01-09-2009. This is in protest against the degradation of pay structure of ISMU faculty members from that at par with IITs and IISc to that of NITs without any academic audit of the institute and faculty. The faculty members will assemble in front of the administrative block at 10.00 a.m. on 01-09-2009 and take part in a silent procession.
ISMU, which was established in 1926 in the same line as Royal School of Mines, has tremendous contribution especially in mining, mineral, petroleum and energy sectors for the last eight decades. Prospective students of these streams prefer ISMU rather than any IIT’S - the reason for this is also obvious in the quality of campus recruitments (http://www.ismdhanbad.ac.in/student/placement/index.html). Students passed out from this institute are serving with great distinction world over in top positions. There have been strong reasons for conversion this institute to an IIT (http://ismu2iit.org). Its faculty members come through same rigorous recruitment standards as IITs. Now its degradation to NITs, without any stated reason, may lead to great damage to this world class institute. The MHRD, instead of uplifting an institute, is annihilating it which all the academicians should protest.
Some uncultured persons (whose name I do not want to mention, as notion of taste) are just going out of main point of disappointmenting features of the present salary structure of tech faculties of UGC/IIT system. In this connetion, I appreciate the blogs of sukanta and pagal.ullu. The main issue should be better appreciation (w.r.t facilities, salary, perks etc) for better performances. Good ranked institutes and universities should be given financial automy (as suggested by Yash pal committe report and NKC, Sam Pitroda report) so that they can provide better salary for better persons. If any body feels that he/she once entered in any good institute by any means that he/she will get always better salary than others, he/should be straight away thrown to Ganges. For this, ALL TECH FACULTIES (irrespective of IIT/IIM and UGC) should unitedly protest the present structure and demand these. Let us have a discussion on these.
With people like sspplm has no vision. They work partly in University and busy with rest time with private tuition and coaching classes. With the tag given by UGC, Asst. Prof. (with M.Sc. qualification), his thought that they are equivalent to Asst. Prof. at IIT/IIM (with Ph.D. qualification). That's the main problem. Let me clarify again. As per 5th pay commission, Reader in UGC were equivalent to Asst. Prof. in IIT/IIM. So, that parity should be maintained again as per 6th Pay commission. This was recommended in Goverdhan Mehta committee report. But unfortunately, our babus & netas see the TAG Asst. Prof. in a different way. It is unfortunate that some UGC people were in Inter-ministerial committee and altered the pay structure. It should be modified at earliest. OR Change nomenclature at IIM/IIT. In IIT/IIM, the faculties can be divided as Associate Professor, Professor and Senior Professor so that it will take care of modified nomenclature of UGC.
Challenge to Siva.
Everyone, please refer to Chapter-3 of Mehta committe report, page no. 18 and 20. You will find there the committe suggest that assistant professors to be initially placed in PB-3 with AGP of 8000, starting to be fixed at 30,000/-. This is exactly what MHRD recommended. The parity of scales between UGC readers and IIT asst. profs (as per 5th PC) has not been mentioned anywhere in the whole report. Even the 5th PC has not suggested any EQUIVALENCE between UGC readers and IIT asst. profs. Please show to all readers, where Mehta committe report mentioned about the so called EQUIVALENCE.
On this blog you may put your point but in a civilised manner. I am surprised to see a dirty blog written by some one 'panky' and I doubt he desreve to be a faculty of IIT !!! If this is the language that the young faculty of IIT are using I am sure they dont deserve the salary they are asking for certainly not more than a rickshaw pullar whose langugae they are using !! You may criticise aother person but should not use filthy language. I am also surprised that how this dirty blog by a dirty 'brain' has been allowed in this column ? Isn't any sane person there to control what is written in these blogs? This dirty mouth 'panky' should be identified and punished for using such abusive language.
- Prof. PP Bahuguna
ISM Dhanbad
Mrs. sspplm
Both UGC reders and IIT Assistant Professors were in 12000-420-18300 during 5CPC... what else u need for equivalance.. but i would still love to loose 10,000 to get involved with all your female family members
We are the non teaching staff members(including- Technical staff, Office staff, Library staff and other supporting staff) of a self financing egg college from kerala. We have 6 More years of experience in our college. Teaching staff getting salary as per AICTE or UGC Scale. But we have only a consolidated salary. We would like to know about our pay scale.
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