UFBU Meets on 8th February, 2010 on common issues with IBA - Banking Reforms and Merger - Solidarity with Central Trade Unions on common issues.
Workmen Unions meets IBA Small Committee on wage Negotiation on 9th February.
Haryana govt to pay arrears
The Haryana government will pay second instalment of arrears of 30 per cent to its pensioners and family pensioners accruing on account of implementation of the pension/family pension revision.
As per a letter issued by the Finance Department, 30 per cent arrears out of 60 per cent would be payable after one year of drawal of first instalment of 40 per cent arrears and the balance 30 per cent arrears would be payable after one year of the drawal of second instalment of 30 per cent arrears, an official spokesman said here today.
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The Haryana government will pay second instalment of arrears of 30 per cent to its pensioners and family pensioners accruing on account of implementation of the pension/family pension revision.
As per a letter issued by the Finance Department, 30 per cent arrears out of 60 per cent would be payable after one year of drawal of first instalment of 40 per cent arrears and the balance 30 per cent arrears would be payable after one year of the drawal of second instalment of 30 per cent arrears, an official spokesman said here today.
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20 comments :
Another date to take further dates for Negotiation on Peanuts offered by IBA.None of the Employee is happy with the settlement process and it's outcome.As per informed sources offer of IBA is fully tilted towards the Top Management and there is hardly any substantial rise for Scale-I,II & III but all the things are under wrap and a lot of misinformation is flowing across the Banking fraternity.
This settlement has put the final nail on Bank employee's social standing i.e. neither he will have any social dignity or respect after this settlement.
What can we do? We seem to have resigned to our fate. By the way, we have lost our social respect in the society as we have been forced to look for flats/ houses at distant places , near slums ( as we certainly cannot afford 30 lac Rs flat, which is the minimum for finding house in a good locality( not posh) in kolkata, the cheapest of metro. By the way, how can we do some course correction:-
I invite comments from members for achieving parity next time (2012, if it happens at all).
I feel that the infighting amongst UFBU constituents was the prime reason for this abysmal settlement. Pension was actually earned by the retired employees and still UFBU have to beg to get it. It will however be of good relief to our ex collegues. Now the question is how the infighting can be stopped and unity in the industry trade union can be strenghtened to get a better deal next time.
2. Instead of seeking parity within industry (with SBI), why not seek parity with Central Govt. We all know the PF and Pension benefit of SBI since the time of Emperial Bank and hence i do not find it appropriate for us to demand the same.
3. I have been informed by my friends in SBI (POs), that their officers and workmen director have clinched the Housing (20 lac at 6% simple) and other benefits, when there was a proposal of TATA ( Rs 5000 cr at 8%). They refused to sign the proposal stating that when employees will pay 5,10,11% (Slabwise) for housing , why a corporate like TATA will be financed at 8%. This lastly forced the management to accept their demand.Can this be not done in our respective bank to increase the pay package indirectly. Similar is the case with Other routing bills as entertainment, conveyance, Special assistant, Sr Assistant allowance. This has been done by SBI Unions at their bank level and we should try to achieve the same from our management also.
Why not change our Associations/ Unions rules, Bye laws regarding the selection of our office bearers. Let only serving employees can be a member/ Office bearer of Association/ Unions. Pensioners ( we also will become one day) can have a separate pensioners union/ association).
We must be apolitical and in case of need, we can go to any political parties for assitance. Why only rely on LEFT ( unofficial). What the future holds for left is known to everybody. I reside at Kolkata and they will be washed out from WB also ( if elections are held today). Then why so leftist bent of mind.
This are my personal views and i invite comments from members so that we can decide how to take us forward for 2012 wage revision.
Looking to the practice, I am not at all hopeful to get Tenth BPS due on Nov-2012, before March-June bracket of 2015. So it's long five years from now.SHAME.
Chandan ji
Yes, i agree, but we will have to be hopeful of reversing the trend of IBA/Govt/ even UFBU (of meagre wage revision in relativity), and we need to have a plan in place to achieve our goals by 2015. Getting the 2012 revision in 2015 is not a big problem as it happens with every sector, even the 6th Pay commission to Govt employee was more than 2.5 years delayed. The important is what we get/achieve.
That is why i want all of industry well wishers (and employees well wishers) to come out with practical suggestions to achieve our goals. The power of internet/ modern communication mediums cannot be ignored by UFBU, union leaders and if they do, we can collectively throw them out. The next 5 years can be utilised , (have to be)to build a solid strategy to achieve parity by then. We cannot and must not let our collagues suffer for long, which ultimately can bring the downfall of economy. Just assume, Bank employees asking for bribe just as police,income tax, land reforms office for normal activity ( of course,not everybody of them are corrupt)to lead a decent life. It will be a bigger shame .
Very Well said Rakesh ji...this is really not Important when bankers get,but the issue should be what they get,and for that thoughts have to be converted into the ACTION from now...even by TODAY, each bank men should unite and put some collaborative effort to meet their goal and help the bankers live their life respect fully in the society.One should not even hesitate to take some efforts that make the UFBU,Govt IBA to take some fruitful measures and make the bankers live with respect,The IBA and GOVT had wot the first battle as even if they allow parity to bankers by 2012 sttlement,then also they could have saved a huge sum,by just making bankers fool with the help of AGENTS(UFBU),by settling some hidden deal with them, but this is the time has came when All Bankers should UNITE and Make it possible this time...
ALL THE BEST...
Dear all,
It is observed that today there will be no meeting with IBA by Officers Associations, for, on 6th meeting of associations a lot of fissures appeared amongst the constituents. Hence, there is no sign of even seeing this 9th BPS in 90days' notice frame. One of the bank's GS was casually referring to the past and opined that there was no need to clinch it in 90 days. Matter is obviously haning fire on the Rs.132 crores SBI pension cost issue.
Mr Rakesh is very very correct. We have to start preparing for the next BPS from now on. The objective should be to circumvent time loss on clinching settlements and to ensure decent increase in wages. We should chalk out an action plan. Retired leaders are the root cause and in all banks no existing leader allows the second rank to come up till he holds charge. Let us make a forum through this blog and exchange the views on the ways and means. There should be sustainable program in place from now on.
We should understand the present set of varous organisations. Either AIBOC or AIBOA whatever banner they have the set up as follows:-
1. State level bank-wise units
2. All India federation of the bank's unit.
3. State Level Federatin of all banks of particular banner
4. Apex level all India body.
We have to start combing from the scratch. From now on we should mobilise all the members to ensure that only working people are elected to govern the associations with mix of all ages in the committees. Such commottees should often meet, deliberate and act on resolutions to instill confidence on all the members.
unless and until we are able to make the managmeents feel our strength we can not get anything.
Mr Rakesh is also correct in getting those loan facilities in all banks. Not only that. there are disparities even amongst the PSBs on many other fringe benefits under the guise of Staff Welfare Schemes.
We should also fight for getting decent monetary benefit on promotions, on transfer to other states especially to far-away states. These are prevailing in Private Sector banks like KVB.
Let us use this blog for preparing ourselves for a better tomorrow.
It is the height of inefficiency,Union leaders are yet to submit the break up of the allocation of Peanuts accepted by them on behalf of members.The court appears to be the only solution.IDBI staff is better placed now in terms of remuneration.Big giants like SBI will not remain behind IDBI and losers will be Nationalised Bank officers.
A lot of soul searching is needed in the Govt.Establishments whether they are doiing justice to the Bank Employees and Indian Economy
ANY NEWS ABOUT TO-DAYS TALKS.
As for the available information, proposed meeting of Officers' Organisations with the IBA on 8th & 9th February, 2010 is postponed. Next date of meeting is yet to be decided.
Anyone has any news that why the Officer's meeting has been postponed??please give the detail for Workmen meeting on 9th feb also
WHY BPS IS DELAYED???:
"Once the wage is settled the workers are required to dole out a levy i.e. a percentage of the arrears of their revised wages to their trade unions which they belong. Obviously you understand the trick, more the delay in wage revision, more the amount of arrears so bigger the amount of levies! Surprised! but this is the norm of wage negotiations and despite of deep resentment amongst the workers (whose voices are always suppressed) for the delay and the undue levy, the practice is on ever since bipartite wage negotiation between Indian Banker’s Association and several trade-unions"
'EXTRACT, TAKEN FROM SOMEONE'S COMMENT'
WHY BPS IS DELAYED???:
"Once the wage is settled the workers are required to dole out a levy i.e. a percentage of the arrears of their revised wages to their trade unions which they belong. Obviously you understand the trick, more the delay in wage revision, more the amount of arrears so bigger the amount of levies! Surprised! but this is the norm of wage negotiations and despite of deep resentment amongst the workers (whose voices are always suppressed) for the delay and the undue levy, the practice is on ever since bipartite wage negotiation between Indian Banker’s Association and several trade-unions"
'EXTRACT, TAKEN FROM SOMEONE'S COMMENT'
dear friends,
As i havealready written the meeting on8h& 9th was not held for reasons best known to them.ONLY OUR
BP [BLOOD PRESSURE&NOT BASIC PENSION]
IS INCREASING DAY BY DAY.OH GOD PLEASE ANSWER OUR PRAYERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I request the incompetent Union Leaders to take a fixed date say in 2011 and finalise the BP settlement then as even 2010 will go by.
Shame on our leaders. Can we not start a new all bank Union????????
Request IBA to put a new condition for next BP--- only serving employees to be Union Leaders.
I do not know the reason why our people are restless when all other settlements and other industry settlement are all taking this much time. Please behave as bank employees. You will get whatever you are entitled.
The game of 9th BPS tarnished the image of bank employees in society in count of pay-packages and reduced them to one of the lowest paid category among white color jobs in the country. The lack of proper vision among top brass of union leaders is in no doubt, responsible for this sorry feature. At the last it can say, "Once the unions that brought bank jobs to a mountain pick (1970 & onwards) today land it on the rubble."
DEAR UFBU LEADERS,
IT HAS BEEN PROVED BEYOND DOUBT THAT THE PATIENCE OF THE BANK EMPLOYEES/PENSIONERS ARE MORE THAN THAT OF DHARMAR OF MAHA BHARATHA.FOR DHARMAR LORD KRISHNAR S TACIT SUPPORT WAS THERE. IN THIS KALIYUGA NO GOD WILL COME TO OUR SUPPORT DIRECTLY.
WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM WHEN THOUSANDS OF CRORES WAS GIVEN AS LIBERAL WAGE REVISION BY CREATING HUGE DEBT BURDEN WHY GOVERNMENT/IBA IS HESITATING TO EXTEND THE EQUAL PACKAGE TO BANKMEN WHO IS TOILING VERY HARD IN ALL SPHERES OF BANKING INCLUDING SHORTAGE OF MANPOWER. EVEN YOUR LETTER TO THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE IS NOT CUTTING THE ICE MEANS WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO NOW.
EVEN AFTER YOUR HISTORIC 17.5% PROPOSED WAGE HIKE PLEASE REMEMBER BANK MEN ARE GOING TO TAKE THE LEAST POSSIBLE POSITION WHEN COMPARED TO GOVERNBMENT/PUBLIC SECTOR EMPLOYEES. PLEASE SEEK CLARIFICATION FROM GOVERNMENT IN WHICH SECTOR THEY ARE CLASIFYING US.
WE ,PENSIONERS PRE 01.11.2002 ARE STRUGGLING WITHOUT 100% DA NEUTRALISATION WHEN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY ALL THE PEOPLE ARE COVERED BY 100% NEUTRALISATION. WHY WE SHOULD SUFFER THIS TYPE OF HUMILIATION INSPITE OF THE FINANCIAL SECTOR S BEST PERFOMANCE . THE SERVING EMPLOYEES HAS PERFORMEND EXCEEDINGLY WELL. YOUR LETTER IS A PROOF. RECENT ARTICLE IN FINANCIA DAILIES ARE SERVING AS ADDITIONAL PROOF.
INSPITE OF ALL THESE THINGS THERE IS DELAY IN GETTING ONE MORE PENSION OPTION /DECENT WAGE REVISION/DA 100% NEUTRALISATION TO PRE 01.11.2002 RETIREES MEANS SOMETHING IS FUNDAMENTALLY WRONG IS GOING ON. NEEDLE OF SUSPICION IS NATURALLY FALLING ON THE GREAT LEADERS LIKE INFIGHTING, SUPERIORITY AMONG THEM SELVES ETC
.IF IT IS NOT THERE THEN IT MEANS UTTER FAILURE ON THE PART OF THE LEADERS TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE TEAM. AND CLINCHING THE DEAL.
YOUR MPS MAY BE ASKED TO INVITE THE ATTENTION OF THE FINANCE MINISTER BY CALLING ATTENTION MOTION OR SIMPLY RAISING THE ISSUE DURING QUESTION HOUR WHO GAVE ASSURANCE .DURING THE SAME TIME LAST YEAR.ATLEAAST LET IT APPEAR IN THE PRESS .SO THAT THE DELAY CAN BE EXPOSED TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
OTHERWISE ASK MADAM MAMTA BANERJEE WHIO STALLED THE PRTROL PRICDE HIKE FOR THE PRESENT. ATLEAST SHE WILL HELP. LEFT PARTIES HAS LOST THE GOODWILL OF THE GOVERNMENT ; HENCE THEY ARE TAKING REVENGE NOW AND HARASSING INDIRECTLY THE BANKMEN.
IF THINGS ARE GOING TO CONTINUE LIKE THIS, THEN THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF THE WAGE SICKNESS AND LACK OF INTEREST WHICH MAY START AMONG ENTHUSIASTIC CADRE WHICH WILL PAVE THE WAY OF DOWNWARD TREND IN THE BANKING INDUSTRY WHICH IS NOT GOOD FOR THE ECONOMY.PLEASE THINK WHY FINANCIAL SECTOR EMPLOYEES IS BEING PAID DECENT SALARY WORLDWIDE.
K BALASUBRAMANIAN
RETIRED BANK MANAGER PENSION OPTED EXPECTING AT LEAST DA 100% NEUTRALISATION IF NOT PENSION UPDATION
THE CAT IS OUT OF THE BAG-- FLASH NEWS ON BPS:
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1) Clerical Scale: 6200 -- 400 -- 7400 -- 500 -- 8900 -- 600 --11300 -- 700 --16200 -- 1300 -- 17500 -- 800.
2)DA: 0.15% From 1st Nov 2007.
3)CCA: No CCA
4) HRA: 9%, 8%, 6.5%
5)Medical Aid: Rs 2000/-
6)Halting Allowance: Rs 500, Rs 375, Rs 300 per diem.
7)Head Cashier-II: Old Rs 1300 will be Rs 1780 & Special Asst; Old Rs 1600 will be Rs 2180 & CTO: Old Rs 910 will be Rs 1250.
8) PQP: Rs 250, Rs 490, Rs 740, Rs 990, Rs 1230.
9) FPP: Old Rs 620 & above will be Rs 935, out of which Rs 800 is increment component.
10) Transport Allowance: Rs 200 p.m.
11) SPECIAL FEATURE: The Basic Pay of all clerical staff members not drawing special pay, will be increased by Rs 1000 p.m. w.ef. 1st May 2010 and they will be liable to work to perform the duties of Single Window Operator 'A'.
(Reliable Source & can't be disclosed)
Thanks.
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