Tuesday, September 29, 2009

IIM-A accepts new pay structure, but has kept its implementation in abeyance for a month

The Indian Institute of Management, Ahmedabad (IIM-A) has accepted the pay structure revision as suggested by the Centre but has kept its implementation in abeyance for a month due to some concerns.

"The IIM-A faculty council has accepted the decision on the pay structure revision suggested by the government in principle, but we have some concerns regarding promotion and recruitment policies," IIM-A Director Dr Samir Barua told reporters today, while speaking about major decisions taken at the institute's Board of Governors meeting held last week.

"We have kept the implementation of the pay structure recommendations in abeyance for a month and conveyed our concerns to the ministry (Ministry of Human Resource Development)," he said.

The IIM-A expects that status of their concerns will be clear in a month's time, Barua said.

Source : PTI
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8 comments :

Unknown said...

"Barua, however, insisted that unlike the manner in which the Indian Institutes of Technology (IITs) went about the issue, “we want to make our requests in a dignified way as we are a responsible public institution. The IITs themselves are a divided house. Within the protesting IITs, there are faculty voices which are of dissent. So, it is difficult to say whether we will go with the IITs on the pay revision issue,” he added".



The above comments by IIM spalashing IITs are serious. After IITs fought long battle for their bare minimum justified demands, the hope developed that these demands could be met at BoG/IIT council level as hinted by ministry. Knowing this clue, I am really not surprised, how IISc and IIMs are behaving now. They start speaking ministry's language now calling IITs method as 'undignified' and theirs 'dignified', calling IITs as 'divided' and theirs 'united'.

From the history I came to know, intellectuals are never united and that is one reason they are ruled and dominated by mediocre people (kings in ancient time and politicians in present time) and history goes on repeating itself. I feel very bad and hurt about this.

September 30, 2009 at 5:30 PM
NIT Pay Scales said...

Dear Prem Ji & Siva Ji(THE REAL WARRIORS)

NIT faculty members were made to wait for almost an year more than UGC. Finally MHRD discovered that we are same like UGC and has given the same UGC scales.....
Various NITs made a number of memorandums.(In a dignified manner as reported by IIM)
But, not even a single time their concerns were heard, in the TWO modifications MHRD has given dated 16th and 22nd.

The pay commission was framed to attract young faculty members with PhD and to retain existing faculty.
As far as NITs are converned MHRD has done everything possible to retain existing senior faculty members.

For young faculty members, MHRD said seven non compoundable advance increment will be given for a person with PhD.
Unfortunately, we don,t know, whether our English is bad or MHRDs, the existing faculty members with PhDs are given a mere TWO increments only. The argument is that a person who is going to be recruited after this GO and who joins with a PhD only will be given 7 increments. Even if a person submits his thesis and gets his PhD the next day of joining NIT, he will be eligible for only TWO increments.
Young faculty members with PhD represented MHRD through various memorandums to keep them at 7000 AGP AT LEAST.
BUT NOTHING HAPPENED FOR THIS DIGNIFIED(AS REPORTED BY IIM)PETITIONS TILL DATE. INSTEAD WE ARE PUNISHED STILL MORE BY GIVING JUST TWO INCREMENTS.

OKAY, If we think that We will leave this institution and join another as a fresher to get atleast the SEVEN increments promised for a fresher, UGC has recently come up with another regulation saying, Discretionary award of advance increments can be given only to Asso Profs and Professors and not to a person joining fresh AS ASSISTANT PROFESSOR(6.4.19 IN REGULATION 2009).
WHY..... What wrong thing we made....Spending 5 to 10 years in various industries and institutions before joining NIT is a fault...OR Did a bit of research to get a PhD in service is a fault... WHAT WRONG THING WE MADE....
SO, U WONT GIVE US PROPER SALARY... U wont allow us to join ANOTHER INSTITUTION also peacefully....(B,COS WE WILL LOSE OUR SERVICE AND WE MAY NOT GET ADVANCE INCREMENTS OTHER THAN FOR PHD......) So, MHRD should tell us what service we should do in our existing institutes...

THOSE WHO JOINED NIT AFTER SUBMITTING THEIR THESIS AND GOT THEIR PhD IN SERVICE IN A MONTH OR TWO AFTER JOINING NIT DONT KNOW
WHETHER WE ARE A FRESH FACULTY
OR
AN EXISTING FACULTY......

WE ARE NOT PROVIDED EITHER THE BENEFITS SHOWN TO EXISTING FACULTY(SENIORS)
NOR
THE BENEFITS GIVEN TO FRESH FACULTY.....
AND WE CANT LEAVE FOR ANOTHER INSTITUTION ALSO(for the reason mentioned above)
ONLY GOD CAN SAVE US ...........

September 30, 2009 at 9:54 PM
Unknown said...

Its good to learn that IIM-A faculty members have accepted the salary structure for the time being and like to continue their agitation in a more deeper way. I have repeatedly stressed out in my earlier blogs, that the technical institutes (IITs/NITs/State Univ. Tech Faculty) need more autonomy in terms of finance, academic and decision making. These institues need to come out of the dependency on government. Only this is the way, whereby one claim for PRIS, necessary perks and other facilities. Thus the main point of agitation for all technical/professional institues should be to come out of the rule of MHRD. For this, all the technical institues need to be unitedly agitate. Otherwise, all the so called strikes, protest will go in vain.

I hope some proactive IIT warriors (reader of this blog) will be able to understand what I tried to convey and will take these in the right spirit. Thanks.

September 30, 2009 at 11:10 PM
Unknown said...

Dear NIT Pay scale

All the technical faculties are quite sympathetic with the proposed pay scale of NIT teachers. To share your pain, let me say that the UGC university technical teachers do not even know whether they will be governed by UGC scales or AICTE will come out with something else.

In any case, the only solution to the presently created problems, is that all the TECH faculties and professional institutes need to be united and protest accordingly for causes mentioned in my previous blog. Otherwise, the IIT brand name will create a lot of differences between the real merits. Asst. profs of newly established IITs (who are yet to show their credibilty) will unnecessarily get huge advantages in comparison to their counterparts in premier engg. institutes (NITs/engg. universities etc). This simply cannot be tolerated.

September 30, 2009 at 11:28 PM
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October 1, 2009 at 11:14 AM
Unknown said...

Non-sense blog: Panky


You are just picking some portions of the UGC report and shouting non-sense. I doubt whether you are at all an educated person or an illiterate perverted fellow. The entire teaching community is ashamed of you. You dumb fellow do not bother to think any things in detail. Have you ever read the 6CPC report, meant for all Cent. Govt. Employees. YOU HAVE NOT. Make some time to read it. Then you will understand how the pre-revised 12000- scale has been mapped into the new scale. You coward people always try to get advantages under the umbrella of IIT brand name. Have you ever read the Yash Pal committe report or the NKC report. YOU HAVE NOT. Otherwise, you would not have been posting this type of statements. In the present higer education scenario of India, the earlier gap between the universities and IITs have been intensionally tried to be reduced. This is creating lots of problems to you people. In the comming days, you people will get lost from the competing market that are comming, if you do not change your attitude. GOD SAVE YOU.

October 1, 2009 at 2:29 PM
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October 1, 2009 at 7:11 PM
NIT Pay Scales said...

WHO WILL TALK ON BEHALF OF YOUNG FACULTY MEMBERS OF NITs

Dear Kapil Sibal Ji,

We are happy that you are trying to resolve the issues in IIT Pay scales. We saw the interview you gave to media. We are happy.
But Sir, will you spend few minutes time to look into the issues raised by Young Faculty Members of NITs ???.
We didn’t get any representation in the Pay Revision Committee. There were only professors………, professors………… and professors. They have taken care of themselves.

We are not getting any support from our faculty association also.
Because, starting from Selection Grade Lecturers, all have got PB4, Which, even the IIT Assistant Professors have not got.

The pay revision committee headed by Prof. Mehta visited IITs and they got the views of Young Faculty members of IIT. But, to the greatest surprise, they did not find time to visit even a single NIT. They did not analyze the present strength of NITs, their publication history, their sponsored research projects, their expectations, .,,,,,,,. Nothing was done and still the committee made a statement that NITs should be given the scales of UGC.

However, NIT faculty who are selection grade lecturers and above are extremely happy as they are getting PB4.

DEAR SIR,
Young faculty members of NITs are not asking for PB4. We are not asking for equal scales like IITs. We are not asking for autonomy like IIT, because within NIT itself, we don’t have autonomy.

In NIT, we don’t have an association like NIT YOUNG FACULTY ASSOCIATION to struggle for us. We are not having the support of our senior faculty colleagues also.

We have no means of representation except this blog and few e mails.

Sir, Kindly look into our issues.

You can compare our performance in terms of publication, in terms of projects, in terms of additional qualification like PhD, in terms of previous experience put in at other leading industries and institutes before joining NIT, our foreign visits, and what ever qualities you desire and you feel is existing in leading institutes like IITs and THEN PLEASE DECIDE ON OUR REQUEST. Please don’t decide based on a professor’s report done without an analysis of the nature shown above.

Again, Sir, we are not asking for IIT scales which is 38,0000 for a regular faculty position.Please don’t say that the starting scale of IIT is only 21,600, which is a contract position. We too have such positions, which we call Adhoc lecturers, and their pay being around 10,000.

ATLEAST PROVIDE 7000 AGP FOR A FACULTY WITH PHD AND AN YEAR OF EXPERIENCE TO NIT FACULTY AS YOU GIVE TO THE ENTRY LEVEL CONTRACT POSITION OF IIT.

SO, SIR, KINDLY GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY.KINDLY DECIDE BASED ON OUR PERFORMANCE .WE STRONGLY FEEL OUR POSITION IS STRONG IN TERMS OF RESEARCH, PUBLICATION AND QUALIFICATION.

AS A LAST POINT, WE WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT, SINCE REC BECAME NITs, THERE WAS A HUGE RACE BETWEEN NITs TO OUTPERFORM EACH OTHER AND THIS WAS THE AGENDA FOR MOST OF THE NIT DIRECTORS AND MOST OF THE NITS HAVE PERFORMED WELL WITHIN THE LAST 5 YEARS.SO, PLEASE DON’T HAVE A PRE CONCEIVED BAD IMPRESSION ABOUT OUR INSTITUTES AND PLEASE TAKE DECISIONS BASED ON FACTS.

SIR, WE DON’T HAVE STRENGTH, WE DON’T HAVE THE BACKING OF OUR ASSOCIATION. PLEASE DO THE NEEDFUL.

October 2, 2009 at 6:51 PM

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